"[We're] just making local stuff now."Downward Spiral does not pay tax on its earnings, due to franking, and, as at June 30 last year, was carrying accumulated tax losses of more than $406 million.Mr Walsh declined to identify the source of the rich dividend stream to Downward Spiral but said: "Mona isn't going to fall over."Mr Walsh told the ABC he hoped eventually to "get the money back" through spin-off businesses like Art Processors, which developed The O digital guide used at Mona and sold to other cultural institutions around the world, and has patented digital queuing technology.Mr Walsh said he doubted that he would sell Art Processors, also known as ArtPro, "but it will become profitable"."Our key assets are our cataloguing system and the queuing patent But ArtPro has a bunch of other viable assets," he said.Mr Walsh described Mona as a "loss leader, with investment strategies"."Mona's profitability will never be through instruments of Mona," he said."Art Processors has very good products informed by Mona, and we have an expectation that the library cataloguing system will be a worthy product."Mona is a showroom, but also a stimulant for insight